CDE executive director Ann Bernstein joined John Maytham on Cape Talk to discuss the role of small business development in driving job creation. She argued that instead of government spending billions on public officials to promote small businesses, those funds should be directed to accountable private institutions that invest in sustainable, labour-intensive enterprises. “We want value for money on our state expenditures,” she emphasised. This interview follows the release of CDE’s latest report, South Africa’s Unemployment Catastrophe: A call for urgent action